Derwin Gray is our guest. Season 1 Episode 19.

On today’s episode, Matt and Jonathan catch up with Pastor Derwin Gray. Derwin is a retired NFL defensive back, successful author, and the founder and lead pastor of Transformation Church- a multiethnic, multigenerational, mission-shaped community that loves God completely. Pastor Derwin and the guys have a great conversation about diversity and discipleship in the 21st century. Plus, Pastor Derwin shares his powerful wrecking moment.   

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